Recurrent stroke

[SheneA]

Yesterday in my father (75 years) recurrent stroke happened. For the first time this ball 8 years ago - left-side , the partial loss of vocal function and considerable reduction in the motor activity of the right side of body. For several years it a little was reduced - beginnings more understandable to , something to remember, to a little work by right hand. But somewhere approximately one month ago it categorically forewent the medicines, if they tried to give something - it shouted and was scolded, which it from them became worse. It threw. He indicated that it is better. But yesterday in the morning it arose with “ before the mouth”. You will excuse at the point of the metaphor, in it the language began badly to move, practically it can say nothing. Neuropathologist she said that the reflexes were maintained, was prescribed the treatment: , , further , diacarb, to . I know that the preparation of is used at the treatment of strokes. Say, as should be used and is possible its application before the acute period in our case? What still you could advise? Forecasts greatly frighten. What to make in order to avoid a deterioration in the condition?

[FAdSAt]

approximately one month ago it categorically forewent the medicines <> yesterday in the morning it arose with “ before the mouth”. You will excuse at the point of the metaphor, in it the language began badly to move, practically it can say nothing. Neuropathologist she said that the reflexes were maintained
A deterioration in the existing symptomatology without the onset of new symptoms attests to the fact that there is no new stricken area, while deterioration occurred in the past seat.
Most likely one should think not about the recurrent stroke, but about a deterioration in the course of the old stroke as a result of stopping treatment.





was prescribed the treatment: , , further , diacarb, to .
The assigned treatment is completely adequately said by me is above.





I know that the preparation of is used at the treatment of strokes. Say, as should be used and is possible its application before the acute period in our case?
I have great doubts, that oligopeptides (even during the intranasal introduction) can be drawn in beside the blood, and all the more penetrate through the blood-brain barrier.
I think that you can to use this preparation without the great fears, but waited some essential result should not be.





What still you could advise? Forecasts greatly frighten.
Main thing - strict accomplishing of the designations of doctor; all additional designations only about the coordination for the sake of it.
You will request the opinion of the doctor in attendance about the addition to the treatment of preparation boles - about our experience this preparation is sufficiently effective for the restoration after stroke and it is combined well with traditional for our medicine preparations and schemes of treatment.

[Goect]

Thanks to you, doctor!
To us actually it is possible to consider that everything not so is terrible, as we do represent? Say, they are possible as the supplementary from the assigned medicines vertigo and weakness - it very badly began to go, it keeps at the point of the wall and several times it fell before the tank. Does can this considerable ? Here it cannot be onsetter injuries?

[FAdSAt]

Judging from the fact, that they did not infuse during the hospitalization and they began to treat houses the, apparently doctor in attendance it calculated the probability of the recurrent stroke of minimum.

[SheneA]

But there is whether the method, with the help of which it is possible to distinguish them? It does can analyzes some?

[FAdSAt]

Exact response can give the research of liquor at the point of the erythrocytes.

[SheneA]

I.e., with the presence of simple vertigo we cannot judge a deterioration in the condition? All the more, about the remaining external signs it is possible to say that the positive dynamics occurs: hand became somewhat better to be straightened, before the speech appears more than the new words (beside .. of profanity). Improvements are insignificant, but nevertheless. Doctor, without conducting additional examination, but only based on our words it decided to propose hospitalization beside the pay squad. Not it is imperative, but it is recommending. One should so act? I judge as far as my previous experience, when care of patient in the hospital is minimal, but against the given moment there is not to be on duty possibilities.

[FAdSAt]

There can be other reasons for vertigo, for example low numbers AD.

[FAdSAt]

Say, there is although some chance, that father will be be able to reduced at least to its previous level before it did throw to assume preparations?
I think what to eat completely real.





In it the tone of muscles and paralyzed, and healthy side is noticeably increased. It does can it is worthwhile to assume in this case some preparations, which weaken it?
If tone is increased as a result of the extrapyramidal disorders, then are shown means. But in any event without the confrontation access to neuropathologist not to be bridged - these preparations must start under the observation of doctor, yes even in the pharmacy without the formula these preparations will not give.





And still is it possible to reduce the fitness for work of linguistic nerve, indeed because of it, as I do understand, he cannot speak?

[SheneA]

Thanks to you!

[SheneA]

I has long ago not written you, but here arose a question. In father motor function began gradually to be restored. I constantly deal with it for the sake of uncomplicated physical exercises. But here speech very badly comes beside the previous condition. How it is possible to accelerate this process?

[FAdSAt]

The simplest exercise reading will be aloud: let read slowly, the principal precise utterance of words.

[SheneA]

I thank you at the point of the response. But it cannot read. Already long ago - after the first stroke it does not learn letter and word. We try to make so - I speak, he repeats, but also even so always correctly it is impossible to repeat.

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To to congratulate you with the advancing New Year! Thanks to you at the point of the collaboration before the lives of people - against these moments collaboration - most important.
I also please advice! To me also greatly it did not transport… My mom endured the ischemic stroke in 1991 in 41 of life, after which was reduced to the end, i.e., neither left foot nor left hand they did not withdraw… hand the Left it remained practically all this time before the tone, strut less was sensory, but it went, wonderfully she spoke - man as all, it is simple with one arm and strut… This interfere withd neither to it nor to us, it took place as mother against that moment 11- of summer child (i.e. me) and as already grandmother now…
Recently language began to be braided in it - which was pore at the moments of fatigue (as in all), pressure was 210/110 after a sharp drop in the pressure with the help of emergency medical service to 130/70 condition rather it deteriorated and it transmitted beside the hospital… it still it went, but head turned and there was weakness, language was braided…
After 2 days, carried out before the hospital it already entirely … Hand right heavily holds the sleeve of water!!!! strut right became almost as the Left for force and movement… Terrible weakness- as it describes its condition- I to it I believe…
After laminography- me “they rested”; the stroke of repeated no - but old seat 5-8 centimeter(s) let itself be known; they prescribed everything as described above - but I greatly wished to hear the forecasts, which me no one tells,…
I please you for my descriptions to answer me the question: What this? and what there can be consequences, if we the desire live down 170010and as far as it only 57…
I recently buried father - also after stroke - to me am simply very necessary psychological support…
I thank in advance.

[FAdSAt]

210/110 - number high, most likely the discussion deals for the sake of the hypertonic crisis about the cerebral type. Rapid reduction AD during stopping of crisis did not also contribute down an improvement in the cerebral blood circulation.
Now primary task - pressure stabilization.
The second task - prophylaxis of complications. It is good that the recurrent stroke did not develop against the height of crisis, they avoided the most serious complication.
Even if you further avoid complications - forecast favorable, is high the probability of the restoration of motor activity against the previous level.
The third task - the acceleration of the restoration of cerebral microcirculation - preparations in practice the same as they are used for the treatment of stroke.

[Goect]

Vast to you thanks!
Still wish to learn your to me relative to the following preparations… which she receive

Spout - ASS
- N



Mydocalm

+ hospital
Piracetam

the vitamins of group

One should make for the sake of it massage now or wait?

[FAdSAt]

If AD is stabilized on with - it is good. Apropos the remaining enumeration of preparations there are no objections, there is only doubt, does follow everything simultaneously or better consistently. Personally I try as far as possible not to assign more than 5-6 preparations down the simultaneous reception.

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In essence all these preparations are input through the pipet…
Apropos massage - it is worthwhile now it “to mass” or better to wait?
THANKS!!!!

[FAdSAt]

If it constantly lies and massage is assigned for prophylaxis of bedsores - then it is indisputably necessary.
If it can arise - I do not see now the sharp need for massage.
About a quantity of preparations he wrote not from the point of view of activity to gastric mucosa, but grinding the view of chemical interaction, the method of introduction so we do not mean.

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Vast thanks to you for help and collaboration, doctor!
They brought mom home - it already even began independently to be moved on the apartment… Itself thus far does not can to arise, but it goes with the bacillus, truth it is thus far heavy…
In it before the left extremities - therefore by it is very heavy to be moved and she practically will not sleep… that you they did recommend in this case? Doctor to us with the extraction about this nothing it mentioned, since it was as everything on the output…
Again VAST to you thanks and “with the pasts you, again, by holidays!!!”

[GregorjefmI]

preparations without the formula are not tempered; and these are sufficiently toxic preparations. Therefore I will not give recommendations, preparations must designate the doctor on the basis of confrontation examination, and at the first days of the reception of preparation doctor must check their activity and correct dose.

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Past already 3 weeks after discharge from the hospital of my mom. Vast you thanks at the point of that inestimable support in the past, but would be desirable to again consult with you…
To us they designated with the extraction:
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of .
knot. (we they bought , tons to there was no beside the knot.)

table.
and everything.
As far as its health is concerned, before the plan of movements it is restored, but it is very heavy…
It already tries to wash vessels, to clean potato and to conduct house. economy to provided be something occupied… But by it IS VERY heavy to arise based on the bed, strut with walking practically is not straightened hand the Left before the terrible tone… it , that precisely this interfere withs to it normally to be restored… and it thinks it down 100%. And even down today's morning in it pressure was 90/60!!! taking into account, that the norm for it 150/80 was always. But if we assume preparations from the pressure before other rhythm (not to of doctor), then pressure based on stable 140/70 is increased to 560-160, but I do already terribly fear this jump… but indeed from this low pressure also nothing good…??? immediately more badly he does speak, weakness respectively, hence and disorder… advise, if you please, what to make? And about - to drink by it Mydocalm and , which is not prescribed , but it is simply by it (it is already bought) either but this it will pass itself, or to be resigned down it and to live so it is further? What with it to make?
VAST THANKS!
P.S. as is it's a pity, that you are available only under these conditions…

[FAdSAt]

down today's morning in it the pressure was 90/60!!! taking into account, that the norm for it 150/80 was always. But if we assume preparations from the pressure before other rhythm (not to of doctor), then pressure based on stable 140/70 is increased to 130-160




from this low pressure also nothing good…??? immediately more badly he speaks, weakness respectively, hence and disorder…





And about - to drink by it Mydocalm and , which is not prescribed , but it is simply by it (it is already bought) or this it will pass itself
These preparations decrease the tone of muscles, but is not removed the reason for an increase in the tone.
Therefore, assumed these preparations should be, but only in addition to the basic treatment: to and angioprotective preparations. First of all this and with the analogs. Down the prolonged course more greatly fits the preparation “boles ”. But about this then, after the completion of the course of .





but or to be resigned down it and to live so it is further?





P.S. as is it's a pity, that you are available only under these conditions…
If in Moscow, then not only before similar.
I would advise to be recorded on the forum, this will make possible to write personal messages others for the sake of that recorded.

[Goect]

in me 6 months of were stroke was paralyzed right side now severe pains before the joints to the right and a feeling of burning what to make? I move I am normally occupied by run and cruising to me 50 years

[FAdSAt]

It is highly improbable so that the pains before the joints would be the consequences of the previous stroke.

[Goect]

however, what to make? why all this? of pain only to the right paralyzed was right side. in spite of all my exercises for the sake of sport right arm and strut clearly began to grow thin moreover, and it reverses hand as on the rack. before the stroke nothing of similar there was nothing.

[FAdSAt]

Possibly, matter not before , but before the violation of the tone of muscles - such occurs after stroke.
But we are external the tone of muscles not , confrontation access to neuropathologist is necessary.

[Goect]

external- that it is certainly indefinable. only in our Estonia very long medicine satisfactorily rested before the Bose; therefore people get better as . it is possible briefly as tone to determine without the doctor, and already then when I will approximately know it is possible, also, to the doctor. Stroke in me they treated by medicine at the point of the pressure and vitamins To 12. placed only next day miller if it does not die immediately will treat, well if dies that why medicines to translate. it is previously grateful at the point of any . With the Mikhail.

[FAdSAt]

If we it is possible briefly as tone determine without the doctor, and already then when will approximately know it is possible, also, to the doctor.





It is possible to try, also, due to the household conditions.
The collaboration of another person will be required.
You should lie, maximally be weakened. Another person will have to by feel the touch estimate “the rigidity” of muscles symmetrically based on two sides: with the increased tone the muscle will be more than “rigid”. If you know how to look tendinous reflexes, to look their symmetry; with the increased tone as a rule and the reflexes are increased on the same side. As the minimum, tapping sufficiently strongly by the tip of finger only lower than the knee calyx, you surely will be able to check patellar reflex.

[Goect]

The many thanks at the point of the consultation, by the way this no one made, they do not surely know AS. Now “best” doctors this those who speaks on Estonian, they earlier than pigs treated, and then when all Russian doctors, above the rare , left to Russia, they try to treat people. Result to . a question do grow thin muscles with the increased tone? As to inspect reflexes I know it certainly once finished course before the med. school before Peter.

[FAdSAt]

Another question do grow thin muscles with the increased tone?

[Goect]

I do thank, but that to make so that it would not be decreased? I feel itself before principle normally, I wish against the beginning of April to move out down the work. As you think possible will be at the point of / driver internationalist I go in Europe down Spain pressure now to the running through of 135/85 70, after 110/75/100